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pulsestudio wrote:I have now collected my AR50 and given it the once over and my only comment is..................Bloody amazing  Congratulations!!  If I had enough skills to modify electric circuits, I would install coiltap or "tri-sound" onto my AR50. A few years ago, I had my AR1500CS modified by a friend of mine, and the guitar now has 4 push/pull pots which function as coiltap and phase switches.
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DisChord wrote:Jason43 wrote:The AR50 had regular speed knobs. [color=darkblue] I only owned my AR50 for about a year, and to be honest - I can't remember for sure what year it was built, but I distinctly recall it had Sure Grip knobs. There are at least two variants of AR50, and the earlier one had "regular speed knobs," I believe. Mine is 1979 built, the earlier one:  And this one is 1982 built, with two switches installed afterward:
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Jason43 wrote:The AR50 had regular speed knobs. I only owned my AR50 for about a year, and to be honest - I can't remember for sure what year it was built, but I distinctly recall it had Sure Grip knobs. Original Sure Grips are fairly pricey (if ya can find 'em at all), but you can get Sure Grip II's from the Ibanez Store site at only $6.00 each (US). My AR2000's have SGII's, and personally, I prefer them over speed knobs any ol' day. The only question I'd have is whether the pot shafts on the AR50 are the same diameter as on current/recent Ibby's.
Paul, that's 15 guitars total. The 'twin' AR2000VV's are the only Ibby's currently in the stable.
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I stand corrected then. I'd wager money that if his has speed knobs, then it probably came with them. I know not all AR50's had them. There's certainly no reason not to put them on though. They are nicer than standard knobs. The older AR's used the same sized pots so new SGII's will work. There's also a guy on ICW who makes really nice SGI repros. 1998 Ibanez Artist AR7001983 Ibanez Artist AM502007 Ibanez Artist AR3052005 Ibanez Artist AR2002004 Ibanez Artcore AM771985 Ibanez Pro Line PL1770Custom made doubleneck
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Mmmmm the plot thickens Hasenobu, the 2 images you have just posted are not like my AR50, well actually they both are, mine has the body, neck, headstock, with the bound edging of your '82, yet it has the PUP's, Bridge, Tail, and knobs of your '79, mine is a cross breed, a mongrol Ibanez guitar aghhhhhh !! have I got a duffo Artist ? pulsestudio
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Actually, there was quite a bit of minor variation in the features of AR50's. So anything is just as possible as anything else either way.
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rustyohus wrote:Actually, there was quite a bit of minor variation in the features of AR50's. So anything is just as possible as anything else either way. Phew!! and relaxxxxxxxxxxx, thanks rustyohus, I am now stripping it down, I have removed the pick guard and changed the knobs for some nice dark gold affairs, I will attach a pic later for some comments. I also need to adjust the truss rod as the neck needs a small amout of relief, slight string choke around the 7th-10th, nothing serious and when amped up you can't hear it, but I know it's there, so does anyone know where I can get a truss-rod spanner, I do have one for another guitar but it is too small so will need to buy one or is there another tool/method I can use? I have also looked inside the pot cover and toggle switch cover and have now sorted the circuit, it is possible to do a coil tap mod for the AR50 but it is not that easy as each humbucker has only a single core lead from it, so I will have to pull the PUP's out and split the 2 individual coils, which is OK, just a bummer of a job, oh well it will be worth it. pulsestudio
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rustyohus wrote:So anything is just as possible as anything else either way. Yes, I agree, and that's why I wrote "The specs apply only to the regular models, thus, so-called "transition models" are not included here" when I uploaded a "DATA Sheet for AR guitars." http://www.geocities.jp/ar_lovers_room/ARdata/eARmodellist.html On top of that, it is no strange that some parts of a guitar have been changed after nearly 30 years have passed since its production. Hope to see your picture soon.
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Wow now that is a comprehensive data log, many thanks Hasenobu, just printing it. I will take a couple of pics tonight and post, if I can remember how to do it, do you simply cut and paste the IMG onto the post page?
I have a question, I really would like to buy an Artist AR300CS, now I realise that there are no facilities on here to buy and sell guitars, understandably so, but is it possible to offer a swap? ie: I have quite a large collection of vintage valve amps, and I can think of 2 combos that I would be prepared to swap for a AR300CS, a Vox AC30 mint and a Marshall JCM800 also mint, both are early 80's, would this be OK to offer? The reason I ask is that I would prefer to get a AR300 from someone on this forum as I am sure it would be a good guitar, and not some rubbish that may be on e-bay etc.
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Here are some pics of the new knobs and removed pick-guard, more to do still, have found a spanner for the truss-rod nut adjuster so will be tackling a bit of relief later tonight.  and another  and finally  Any comments on my choice of knobs, I definitely prefer the lack of pick-guard. pulsestudio
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Thank you for the pictures. As you say, a pick-guard doesn't suit this guitar!
BTW, will you tell me its S/N?
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Hasenobu, here is the serial # Did you like my choice of control knobs? I think they look really tidy and suit the guitar, I will keep the original speed knobs just in case I ever sell it. Oh BTW I may have found a nice 1986 Super Edition Artist AR300CS, early days but we are talking, could I PM you for some of topic info please?  cheers pulsestudio
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pulsestudio wrote:Hasenobu, here is the serial # Did you like my choice of control knobs? I think they look really tidy and suit the guitar, I will keep the original speed knobs just in case I ever sell it. Oh BTW I may have found a nice 1986 Super Edition Artist AR300CS, early days but we are talking, could I PM you for some of topic info please?
Thank you for the serial number. I see, it's built in 1980, then, the mixture of parts isn't surprising. And as for the control knobs, well, to be honest, if I were in your shoes, I would leave the original ones unchanged. This is, of course, a matter of preference.  PM? Personal Mail or something? If so, yes, go ahead.
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Thank you Hasebnobu, I have sent an e-mail to your private account, you have been very helpful, thank you, and yes I guess the original knobs do look more suited but is this because this is what we are used too, I think the new knobs look really cool and will keep them on the guitar for now, and they do feel very nice to use as the finger sits comfortably in a channel and is great for bowing techniques.
Last night I slackened off the truss-rod nut a little and brought a little relief to the neck, this has cured the small amount fret buzz that could only be heard when used not amplified, but it has made the action a little slower and doesn't feel as slick, so tonight I will tighten a little more, this has to be done over a period of time I believe, until the neck settles? many thanks pulsestudio
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Jason43 wrote:Lower the bridge after you adjust the neck. Don't adjust the action with the truss rod. Hi Jason43, I have left it over last night and today and it has settled in quite nicely now, but I am going to teak the truss rod a little more as I think there is still a bit more to go, and then I will raise the bridge a little if required. On another topic but closely related, some may know of my re-kindled desire toward these amazing guitars since buying my AR50 just last week, and my desire to own a top of the range AR300CS, well I think I may have found my dream Artist, not going to say too much yet but it is looking like a done deal and when it does I will post some pics of this beautiful instrument here, till then I am still reeling with excitment about my AR50 which is a pleasure to own and play, I am so pleased I decided to go for another Ibby, can you believe I looked at a PRS Custom 24 just 2 weeks ago and walked away from it, and that was 4 times the price of my AR50, and less of a guitar, just goes to show that it pays to try before you buy. pulsestudio
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Can anyone please tell me what PUP's are fitted to my AR50 in the pics above, are they Super 70's, Flying Finger 80's or V2's, how can I tell or can someone please tell what they are from the pics provided.
Oh BTW I have just added another Artist to my small collection of 1, it is a 1979 AR100AV, apparantly a transistion model as it has the thinner body of the 26xx series Artist and a few other x-over features, I will post pics later but you may have seen it on e-bay just a few days ago, I have not recieved it yet as it is being shipped from the States to here in the UK, but I do have some images from the auction if interested!? Cheers pulsestudio
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