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Alright, My ZR is way to sensitive. Even when I grab the Trem Arm slightly to use the tremolo, while barely grabbing it it goes out. What do I do to make it not as sensitive?
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Do you have the ZPS in? Current "Heard":UV777PBK - UV7PWH - UV7BK "Green Dot" - UV7BK "Green Silver Dot" - RG7620VK - RG7420BK - RG1527RB GUITAR SET-UP AND MAINTENANCEIbanez Catalogs--- Megatron's Trem GuideNeed replacement parts? Go here.Want to talk to Ibanez USA (Hoshino USA)? Then call this number (PA area code): (215)245-1648.OFFICIAL IBANEZ PARTS & APPAREL STORE!!!
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What's a ZPS?
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Power Metal26 wrote: What's a ZPS? Do you have a manual with the guitar? If not, download one and read it. Also when you say it "goes out" do you mean it goes out of tune and doesn't return?
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No it stays in tune fine. I'm just saying the tremolo is really sensitive to touch. I barely touch the trem arm and it goes out (and back in tune). I just want it to be less sensitive to trem use. Or is this how the ZR is?
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Power Metal26 wrote:No it stays in tune fine. I'm just saying the tremolo is really sensitive to touch. I barely touch the trem arm and it goes out (and back in tune). I just want it to be less sensitive to trem use. Or is this how the ZR is? This is how *any* floating trem is, it's the entire reason you get a floating trem in the first place ... :P There's no real fix for this, as it isn't something that needs to be fixed to begin with, if you need it to be fixed then you buy a guitar with a "fixed bridge" (e.g. hardtail, or tune-o-matic, etc). The only solution with your current guitar is to either buy a Tremol-No or block it with wood; the former might be a good solution for you, but costs like $70-80 and requires some setup, and the latter leaves you with a guitar that's half as functional as it was intended to be.
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I'm not talking about the fact that the floating bridge moves. lol. I'm talking about the fact that its really really sensitive to touch. I've played other Zr's and none of them are as sensitive as mine. Even when I slightly grab the trem arm to prepare for a dive bomb or whatever, just by putting the tiniest amount of pressure it'll go out.
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agreed with max.. you need to put the zps in.. and read a manual.. lol..
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So the ZPS stands for Zero Point System? Yeah, it's in.
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Quote:I'm not talking about the fact that the floating bridge moves. lol. I'm talking about the fact that its really really sensitive to touch. I've played other Zr's and none of them are as sensitive as mine. Even when I slightly grab the trem arm to prepare for a dive bomb or whatever, just by putting the tiniest amount of pressure it'll go out. One of the reasons other ZRs may not *seem* as sensitive is because of the ZPS system, which adds tension when you dive the trem down in order to more forcefully pull it back into the neutral position when you let go. Unfortunately the system is more or less redundant on a ball-bearing trem ... the ZPS system is more useful on a knife-edge system like a standard Floyd Rose, and it only affects when you dive, not when you climb. But either way, yours may not have the ZPS system currently on it, which will make it as sensitive as any normal floating trem is. There are other devices that work better than the ZPS system and in both directions, like a Tremsetter or other backstop device. You might want to look into getting one of those, as it will make the trem less sensitive overall but still preserve its full-floating capabilities. But yes in general, even applying a very small amount of force onto the arm bar (or even the back of the trem itself) will normally cause some pitch modulation, that is standard operation for a floating trem.
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Yeah, it's got the ZPS in it. It's an 07 model. Actually, now that I think about it he had a much higher string tension set. Mine's fairly low. That's probably it.  ?
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Power Metal26 wrote: Yeah, it's got the ZPS in it. It's an 07 model. Actually, now that I think about it he had a much higher string tension set. Mine's fairly low. That's probably it.  ? That would certainly explain why your ZR seems "bouncier" than it once was. The more tension on both springs and strings will make a trem harder to move. Usually that's a bad thing, but if you're not used to a very bouncy ball bearing system, I can see how you could be getting frustrated. I recommend you go up a size in strings, set it up, and see how it feels. I have a feeling it'll help you out. Current "Heard":UV777PBK - UV7PWH - UV7BK "Green Dot" - UV7BK "Green Silver Dot" - RG7620VK - RG7420BK - RG1527RB GUITAR SET-UP AND MAINTENANCEIbanez Catalogs--- Megatron's Trem GuideNeed replacement parts? Go here.Want to talk to Ibanez USA (Hoshino USA)? Then call this number (PA area code): (215)245-1648.OFFICIAL IBANEZ PARTS & APPAREL STORE!!!
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That's a pretty good idea. I'm using 9's right now. I usually use 10's, but if I remember right I still had the same issue with 10's. 11's with a ZR? And there's no way I'm raising that string tension. :D I'll get used to it. It's not unbearable it's just pretty different to get used to. Thanks guys.
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It may have the ZPS bar installed around the back of the sustain block, but is the sustain block touching against the ZPS bar when the trem is at rest? If not, you'd need to adjust the angle of the trem appropriately so that it is, or the trem will be too twitchy. Beginners Guide to Chord TheoryBeginners Guide to Scales
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Yeah, it's touching it.
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i had my guitar setup and the string tension was at the bottom now its like half way and its less bouncy to be honest i didnt like it before because it was too sensitive but now its nice and you can control the amount. just increase the tension. it makes it slightly harder to press down and dive bomb but all in all it wont just "go out" when u touch it
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I like having to barely put forth an effort to bend. I'd rather have a twitchy ZR than really high string tension.
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well then why complain about it then?
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I didn't figure out it could of been string tension until after I posted.
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