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Steelrobbin
Posted: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 11:10:09 AM

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Well it's identical to a regular RG7421. Japanese made, Basswood body, V77 and V87 pups, etc... The big and only difference is the scale, XL means 27" scale instead of the regular 25,5". And I don't think the regular RG7421 was available in that colour.

It looks really nice, to bad about that switch thou

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MaxOfMetal
Posted: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 12:31:00 PM

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Steelrobbin wrote:
Well it's identical to a regular RG7421. Japanese made, Basswood body, V77 and V87 pups, etc... The big and only difference is the scale, XL means 27" scale instead of the regular 25,5". And I don't think the regular RG7421 was available in that colour.

It looks really nice, to bad about that switch thou


Correct, the RG7421XL was only available in "Grey Nickel", while the RG7421 was available in "Black" and "Cherry Fudge".

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Steelrobbin
Posted: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 8:52:04 PM

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MaxOfMetal wrote:
Steelrobbin wrote:
Well it's identical to a regular RG7421. Japanese made, Basswood body, V77 and V87 pups, etc... The big and only difference is the scale, XL means 27" scale instead of the regular 25,5". And I don't think the regular RG7421 was available in that colour.

It looks really nice, to bad about that switch thou


Correct, the RG7421XL was only available in "Grey Nickel", while the RG7421 was available in "Black" and "Cherry Fudge".


Can you post a pic of your 7421? I have never seen that finish and I can't find it on google either

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MaxOfMetal
Posted: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 9:14:09 PM

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Steelrobbin wrote:
MaxOfMetal wrote:
Steelrobbin wrote:
Well it's identical to a regular RG7421. Japanese made, Basswood body, V77 and V87 pups, etc... The big and only difference is the scale, XL means 27" scale instead of the regular 25,5". And I don't think the regular RG7421 was available in that colour.

It looks really nice, to bad about that switch thou


Correct, the RG7421XL was only available in "Grey Nickel", while the RG7421 was available in "Black" and "Cherry Fudge".


Can you post a pic of your 7421? I have never seen that finish and I can't find it on google either


It was a relatively rare color, I'll look for a pic on my external hardrive, but I can't promise. Unfortunately I don't have the guitar with me, I left it in Florida with my dad for my move to Arizona. My RG7421, RG7420, and UV7 are all back in Florida, along with about half of my gear. I only brought a few guitars and basses and one of each amp out here. I hate last minute moves.

Current "Heard":
07' UV777PBK - 99' UV777PBK - 91' UV7PWH - 91' UV7BK "Green Dot" - 97' UV7BK "Silver Dot" - 99' RG7620VK - 00' RG7420BK - 06' RG1527RB

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Steelrobbin
Posted: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 7:39:01 AM

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MaxOfMetal wrote:
Steelrobbin wrote:
MaxOfMetal wrote:
Steelrobbin wrote:
Well it's identical to a regular RG7421. Japanese made, Basswood body, V77 and V87 pups, etc... The big and only difference is the scale, XL means 27" scale instead of the regular 25,5". And I don't think the regular RG7421 was available in that colour.

It looks really nice, to bad about that switch thou


Correct, the RG7421XL was only available in "Grey Nickel", while the RG7421 was available in "Black" and "Cherry Fudge".


Can you post a pic of your 7421? I have never seen that finish and I can't find it on google either


It was a relatively rare color, I'll look for a pic on my external hardrive, but I can't promise. Unfortunately I don't have the guitar with me, I left it in Florida with my dad for my move to Arizona. My RG7421, RG7420, and UV7 are all back in Florida, along with about half of my gear. I only brought a few guitars and basses and one of each amp out here. I hate last minute moves.


That's got to suck! Not being able to play with all your toys;)

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Pseudonym
Posted: Thursday, October 01, 2009 9:31:43 AM
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I've got an RG7421XL in the silver finish. I'll post it when I get home.
Pseudonym
Posted: Thursday, October 01, 2009 7:25:37 PM
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Well, here's my RG7421XL next to a 6 string RG2EX1 I bought a few months ago. The XL has Di'Mario Blazes in it. Honestly, it sounds better when played "jazzy" than it does for metal.



Steelrobbin
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My Ibanez RG7-620











Soon going under major modification.

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shaun7321
Posted: Monday, November 02, 2009 3:35:25 AM
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7 String tuning.

Hi There, I have a RG7321 and am battling with the tuning of the lower B string. I actually want to tune it to a drop A type tuning, but the sound is horrible. It seems that it is to low or to loose and as a result there is no real tone (very difficult to explain).

When I tune to B, it seems like the tension is just enough to produce a decent tone, any lower then it goes bad.

Could anyone please offer some advice as to what I am doing wrong and how I can rectify it? I am not to clued up with the setup etc, but would like to learn.

Any help will be appreciated, let me know if My question is not clear (like my tone).

Thanks
MaxOfMetal
Posted: Monday, November 02, 2009 3:56:15 AM

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shaun7321 wrote:
7 String tuning.

Hi There, I have a RG7321 and am battling with the tuning of the lower B string. I actually want to tune it to a drop A type tuning, but the sound is horrible. It seems that it is to low or to loose and as a result there is no real tone (very difficult to explain).

When I tune to B, it seems like the tension is just enough to produce a decent tone, any lower then it goes bad.

Could anyone please offer some advice as to what I am doing wrong and how I can rectify it? I am not to clued up with the setup etc, but would like to learn.

Any help will be appreciated, let me know if My question is not clear (like my tone).

Thanks


Use a thicker string to get back the tension you loose when you tune down.

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shaun7321
Posted: Monday, November 02, 2009 3:59:03 AM
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Excellent, thanks MaxOfMetal! I was thinking it should be something along those lines. Much appreciated, I will give it a shot.
dirtty420boy
Posted: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 7:01:16 PM

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if ibanez 7's are so popular, why dont they have any decent mid priced 7's? and why dont they give us more????? i mean you have to make a thread just for the 7's but you only have 2 pres. models and 2 hard tail rg's and then the s model. you have some awsome mid priced rg's like the 350 deluxe that could be a awesome 7(minus the shark tooth inlays). a white rg 7 with pickguard would sweet. or even a new rg with a matching head stock. come on. am i the only one that thinks ibanez needs to expand the 7 string line.

some other ideas

baritone scale
neck thru's
SD black outs, reg pick up size so we could swap out for passive
binding
Chameleon finish
no inlays or off set dot inlays
Fixed Edge III bridge

dear santa,

this x-mass i would like a 7 string rg350dx with dot inlays and chrome or black chrome hardware, in a white finish. a 7 string acoustic, and a lazyboy with a built in amp and fridge. lol
MaxOfMetal
Posted: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 7:11:50 PM

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As far as 7s go, Ibanez currently has the following:

RG7321
RG7321FM
S7320
RG1527
RG1527M
UV777PBK
Apex1
Apex2
XPT707FX

I agree that more 7s would be aa good thing, but to say "they don't have any decent mid priced 7s" is going a little far. Seeing as how the majority of that list is in the "mid priced" range.

It might not be as much as they offered ten years ago, but it's better then just about all other mainstream production guitar companies.

Current "Heard":
07' UV777PBK - 99' UV777PBK - 91' UV7PWH - 91' UV7BK "Green Dot" - 97' UV7BK "Silver Dot" - 99' RG7620VK - 00' RG7420BK - 06' RG1527RB

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dirtty420boy
Posted: Friday, November 06, 2009 8:10:31 PM

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your not seeing my point. im not doubting there ability to make good guitars. im saying they have the
rg7321 399.99
rg7321fm 499.99
both hard tails

then the price jumps to 800.00 and most of there 7's are pretty much the same.
there rg 6 string line has some variety.

pickgaurds
neck thrus
baritones
ect ect.


just say, why dont they expand on the 7's if they are so popular.

dear santa,

this x-mass i would like a 7 string rg350dx with dot inlays and chrome or black chrome hardware, in a white finish. a 7 string acoustic, and a lazyboy with a built in amp and fridge. lol
dirtty420boy
Posted: Friday, November 06, 2009 8:25:34 PM

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i mean as a example, the rg350dx cost 400.00, what if ibanez made a 7 string version and sold it for say 450.00 or 500.00. white finish, pickgaurd, lower budget edge trem, three ibanez pickups, rosewood fretboard, dot inlays. nothing to special. just a mid priced rg 7. that doesnt look like all the other rg 7s that is out now. and they can expand that. make a neck thru rg 7 with a matching head stock, maybe some nicer offset side dot markers. or how about a better hard tail model. with a fixed edge bridge like they have with the 8string or MTM model. there are so many possiblitys that they could do to expand. i am in no way trashing ibanez. im just saying. to go from a cheap hard tail to a prestige model. is kind of -- considering how popular the 7's are. and i know they have the s model(why not a 24 fret?) and the x what ever it is(ugly as poop if you ask me). and the 3 sig models. but im talking about the rg. thats what everyone wants for the most part, why do they go from a tv dinner to steak?

dear santa,

this x-mass i would like a 7 string rg350dx with dot inlays and chrome or black chrome hardware, in a white finish. a 7 string acoustic, and a lazyboy with a built in amp and fridge. lol
Ouija
Posted: Saturday, November 07, 2009 11:26:09 AM

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dirtty420boy wrote:

just say, why dont they expand on the 7's if they are so popular.


Because they aren't popular.

The seven string market is a niche market, nothing more, though most seven string players can't seem to see that (people are always a little blinkered when it comes to things they love).

As for the 24 fret 7 string Saber. Forget about it. Been discussed to death on numerous occasions and it just isn't practical. The thin body of a S just barely balances out a thin 22 fret neck, stick a longer or thicker neck on there and you start having balance issues. Both the 24 fret 6 string sabers and the 22 fret 7 string sabers don't balance very well at all (they want to slide across your body, and are just shy of going neck heavy). Combine a 7 string neck with an extra 2 frets and it'll only get worse due to the fact the body gets made shorter, putting the upper horn closer to the rear of the guitar (and it's how far forwards the tip of the upper horn is, relative to the guitars center of gravity that determines how heavy a neck the guitar can carry, hence the long pointy horn of the RG). On top of that, all the hardware gets shoved further forwards on the body shifting the weight forwards, making the problem worse.

The only way you can solve it is by giving the guitar a really long upper horn or making the body as thick as an RG (which defeats the point of the saber, and would actually weigh more since it's made of mahogany).

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MaxOfMetal
Posted: Saturday, November 07, 2009 11:27:06 AM

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Ouija wrote:
dirtty420boy wrote:

just say, why dont they expand on the 7's if they are so popular.


Because they aren't popular.

The seven string market is a niche market, nothing more, though most seven string players can't seem to see that (people are always a little blinkered when it comes to things they love).

As for the 24 fret 7 string Saber. Forget about it. Been discussed to death on numerous occasions and it just isn't practical. The thin body of a S just barely balances out a thin 22 fret neck, stick a longer or thicker neck on there and you start having balance issues. Both the 24 fret 6 string sabers and the 22 fret 7 string sabers don't balance very well at all (they want to slide across your body, and are just shy of going neck heavy). Combine a 7 string neck with an extra 2 frets and it'll only get worse due to the fact the body gets made shorter, putting the upper horn closer to the rear of the guitar (and it's how far forwards the tip of the upper horn is, relative to the back of the guitar that determines how heavy a neck the guitar can carry, hence the long pointy horn of the RG). On top of that, all the hardware gets shoved further forwards on the body shifting the weight forwards, making the problem worse.

The only way you can solve it is by giving the guitar a really long upper horn or making the body as thick as an RG (which defeats the point of the saber, and would actually weigh more since it's made of mahogany).


+1

Current "Heard":
07' UV777PBK - 99' UV777PBK - 91' UV7PWH - 91' UV7BK "Green Dot" - 97' UV7BK "Silver Dot" - 99' RG7620VK - 00' RG7420BK - 06' RG1527RB

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Adaman
Posted: Thursday, December 10, 2009 7:05:52 AM

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Ouija wrote:
dirtty420boy wrote:

just say, why dont they expand on the 7's if they are so popular.


Because they aren't popular.

The seven string market is a niche market, nothing more, though most seven string players can't seem to see that (people are always a little blinkered when it comes to things they love).

As for the 24 fret 7 string Saber. Forget about it. Been discussed to death on numerous occasions and it just isn't practical. The thin body of a S just barely balances out a thin 22 fret neck, stick a longer or thicker neck on there and you start having balance issues. Both the 24 fret 6 string sabers and the 22 fret 7 string sabers don't balance very well at all (they want to slide across your body, and are just shy of going neck heavy). Combine a 7 string neck with an extra 2 frets and it'll only get worse due to the fact the body gets made shorter, putting the upper horn closer to the rear of the guitar (and it's how far forwards the tip of the upper horn is, relative to the guitars center of gravity that determines how heavy a neck the guitar can carry, hence the long pointy horn of the RG). On top of that, all the hardware gets shoved further forwards on the body shifting the weight forwards, making the problem worse.

The only way you can solve it is by giving the guitar a really long upper horn or making the body as thick as an RG (which defeats the point of the saber, and would actually weigh more since it's made of mahogany).



Dance I actually really want to see how this turns out.



Aguitarnamedzero
Posted: Monday, December 14, 2009 9:28:04 AM
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I actually really want to see how this turns out.


so do I . . .seeing as the S and 24 fret necks don't seem to compute in my mind . . it was one of the things that made it different than the RG lineup. although I also wonder how the AH pickups fare in mahogany as opposed to basswood. . .heard relatively good things about the AH p/ups in the S7320 (this is all relative of course) due to the fact that mahogany seems to be a better match for them, especially compared to basswood.
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