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Ibanez zr tremolo
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#1 Posted : 4/13/2009 1:12:14 AM

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Hey i was thinking about buying a s7320 and i hear alot of people saying the zr tremolo broke is there a way to prevent it from happening because i really love the guitar and if i bought it i couldnt afford to buy a new one

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#2 Posted : 4/13/2009 1:41:36 AM
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Take out the zps system and you should be fine.
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#3 Posted : 4/13/2009 7:52:11 PM
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SxTxExPxHxExN wrote:
Hey i was thinking about buying a s7320 and i hear alot of people saying the zr tremolo broke is there a way to prevent it from happening because i really love the guitar and if i bought it i couldnt afford to buy a new one

PLZ REPLY :)

the part that breaks is the arm socket that the arm goes through. if you make sure the nut underneath the trem that holds the socket in stays tight it will help. also removing the zps
so there isn't alot of spring tension helps, the arm socket is made out of a cheap metal thats the main reason it breaks,the arm socket is $10.00 for a new one if it does break.
see my avatar it is my broken arm socket.
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#4 Posted : 4/18/2009 9:29:24 PM

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How long do the sockets last anyway?

Do you think Ibanez can install a ZRII (with the clip in arm) on an S. How much do you think It'll cost?

Angelo
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#5 Posted : 4/19/2009 7:54:59 AM
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You can't buy ZRII's and Ibanez don't do custom jobs.

The ZR1 sockets last as long as you want, as long as you know what you are doing (ie: ditch the ZPS bar and keep the arm socket nut tight).
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#6 Posted : 4/19/2009 5:48:57 PM

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Sugar that's a blow. No ZRII avaliable. I guess it's a good thing that I did order a spare part on eBay just incase. My problem is that I love the ZPS bar because it makes it feel more stiff and keeps the guitar in tune better. I also do a lot of unison bends in my playing soit helps the strings stay in tune. Perhaps I should stop doing a Herman Li by holding the guitar by the tremolo. I don't want to take any chances!

It's such a shame that Ibanez have produced a nice tremolo but out of cheap metal. Is there a modification that can be done to improve this design? Could a part off an official Floyd do the trick?

I think it's a shame that Ibanez are producing their products at this standard. They're lovely guitars, but I wouldn't pay the money their asking for thier "prestige" range. Hopefully this is just all down to the economy. Once it evens out, I hope their quality control goes back up, they re-open the custom shop and that thet start listening to their consumers.
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#8 Posted : 5/11/2009 1:12:47 PM
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Does anyone know if the S Prestige models have better quality trem arm holder and fine tuners?

Phil
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#7 Posted : 5/11/2009 1:26:02 PM
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Angelo wrote:
re-open the custom shop and that thet start listening

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#10 Posted : 5/11/2009 2:19:31 PM

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Yeah... isn't going to happen. But Ibanez do produce good products. I was playing my Fender a minute a go and I just realised how much better Ibanez is. Their "quality" may not be there, but their instrument play themselves. =)
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#11 Posted : 5/11/2009 3:02:09 PM
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Angelo wrote:
Yeah... isn't going to happen. But Ibanez do produce good products. I was playing my Fender a minute a go and I just realised how much better Ibanez is. Their "quality" may not be there, but their instrument play themselves. =)


I was actually stating that they are listening. You think they just decided to bring back the Super Wizard, use real Dimarzio pickups, ample maple boards, more maple tops, and flashier colors? I realize they haven't given the same to the S series, but I belive in time, perhaps even this summer, we could see the S heading in a better direction.

As for custom shop, look into how Ibanez as a company is run. It's been discussed MANY times why a Custom Shop is not going to happen. Also, they can't be compared to other makers in that reguard either.

Would I like for everything you said to come true? Of course! Though I accept and understand why it won't happen anytime soon. No mainstream brand NEEDS a custom shop.
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#12 Posted : 5/11/2009 3:41:25 PM
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...and some of their LA Custom Shop people actually openly admitted on Jemsite that they took suggestions like the maple fretboards, etc. for 2009 from the web community.

However, I get the suspicion it's mostly from Jemsite, as this forum here tends to be a bit too...overwhelming.
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#9 Posted : 5/11/2009 6:47:09 PM
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Phil66 wrote:
Does anyone know if the S Prestige models have better quality trem arm holder and fine tuners?

Phil


It has a different arm holder (steel) that takes a pop in bar, rather than a screw in bar. Stonger than the pewter arm holder on the standard models. The fine tuners vary. Five of mine have a swirled top you really have to stare at to see (feels almost smooth to the touch too). The low E string one, on the other hand, as a noticeably swirled or ridged top to the fine tuner that is reminiscent of the ones that come on the cheaper ZR's.
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#13 Posted : 5/11/2009 7:33:37 PM

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I'm not sure if my ZR trem-arm holder is broken or not. The arm doesn't 'click' in when I push down (it never has though) and it has a little bit of play in it which I don't like, but otherwise the trem responds just fine.
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#14 Posted : 5/12/2009 3:03:26 AM
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ZR doesn't have a push in arm holder, has a screw in and a collar.

The ZR II does have a push in, just make sure this isn't happening

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#15 Posted : 5/12/2009 3:35:21 AM

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I have the collar and screw one then, but it doesn't screw in.

Are the trem arms different between the two models? My trem arm looks exactly like the one in that diagram, and I suspect my store might have given me a ZRII arm for my ZR.
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#16 Posted : 5/12/2009 5:03:02 AM
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Yes the ZR should screw so the arm needs a thread on it, the ZRII just clips in and looks like the one in the previous diagram, it has no thread.
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#17 Posted : 5/12/2009 6:37:18 AM
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ZRII's only come on the Japanese made Prestige S5470 and SV5470, not the Korean/Indonesian cheaper models. Those have the original ZR with a screw in arm and tensioner collar. Requires a special threaded arm from Ibanez. You can't use an off the shelf Floyd Rose screw in arm as the thread pattern is different.
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#18 Posted : 5/17/2009 5:01:53 AM

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Hey everybody, I've realised that suddenly my ZR tremolo arm holder is getting a little loose and is making "clunking" noises when I make small movements. I've ordered one of "broke zr's" custom holders which should arrive sometime next week.

I'm wondering how you guys manage to remove the arm holder from the tremolo block. It's awfully cluttered back there. Is there anyway it can be removed without having to take the whole trem off? Also, what size wrench / socket is needed?

Thanks
AarJay
#19 Posted : 5/17/2009 6:58:58 AM
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a video tutorial is faster than writing a thousand words ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wJP3rzOCIE <-- credz goes to whoever made that video, heh.
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#21 Posted : 5/17/2009 8:36:34 AM
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Why not just tighten the existing nut back up and keep the original arm holder until it breaks (which might be never)? Stick the new nut on if and when that happens.
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