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AS73 Machine head replacement question
stegro
#1 Posted : 8/14/2009 11:13:52 AM

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I found a pretty good deal on Grover 106c locking tuners and want to replace the stock tuners on my as73. Does anyone know if these should fit without doing major mods to the headstock?
ibnzdad
#2 Posted : 8/14/2009 11:52:25 AM
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The 106C is a larger tuner and the screw hole tab is
straight down.

You need these

http://www.stewmac.com/s...ning_Machines_3L3R.html




They are a direct fit. However, the knobs are smaller if that is an issue for you.
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#3 Posted : 8/14/2009 1:03:42 PM

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OK. Thanks very much for the info.
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#4 Posted : 8/14/2009 4:40:55 PM
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You know I don't understand replacing items like this. Maybe I'm just lucky or my stringing and tuning technique is effective. I know this, all of my guitars stay in tune. Oh sure they change a little with temperature and humidity but they stay in tune, plus or minus a few cents, no matter how hard I play and I'm an aggressive string bender.



I'm a three AM'er with an AS93 and Rock my Blues with "LapiStone"
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#6 Posted : 8/14/2009 5:18:15 PM
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The AM is the only one we've changed tuners on because
the originals were somewhat sloppy and would slip in the
gearing not around the post. Typically we use the wrap
under technique and have had no issues on the SZ520 or
the AF85.

Could not get the originals to tighten up. Changing to the
Grovers helped dramatically. We went with the locking style
because a trem was mounted on the AM.

Like you I don't think the locking style is actually necessary
if you know the proper technique. I've strung up the others with
as little as 3/4 wrap and had no slippage problems. However,
having the extra insurance of a locking tuner if you're playing
out can offer some piece of mind.

MaxOfMetal
#5 Posted : 8/14/2009 5:36:23 PM
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rraguse wrote:
You know I don't understand replacing items like this. Maybe I'm just lucky or my stringing and tuning technique is effective. I know this, all of my guitars stay in tune. Oh sure they change a little with temperature and humidity but they stay in tune, plus or minus a few cents, no matter how hard I play and I'm an aggressive string bender.





If strung right, you really shouldn't need locking tuners, especially on a fixed bridge guitar, but even on a trem equipped one. The enemy is the extra windings around the post. If you try to limit the wrap to only once around, you'll notice an increase in tuning stability, compared to multiple wraps.

Something to look into that is just as, if not MORE important to tuning stability on a non-locking set-up is the nut. Most tuning issues come from the nut.
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