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While adjusting the intonation of my 2570, the saddle suddenly came forward(away from the bridge) and to my horror for some reason, my allen key seems to be too small for the nut that moves the saddle. What should I do?
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toshiyap wrote:While adjusting the intonation of my 2570, the saddle suddenly came forward(away from the bridge) and to my horror for some reason, my allen key seems to be too small for the nut that moves the saddle. What should I do? Can you take a picture of the issue you're having, it'll help us to better help you. If you need a different size allen key, you can pick them up at any hardware store. In fact for a few bucks you can pickup a whole set of allen keys in various sizes.
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Hi, the nut is now bigger than my allen key slightly , i believe some of the hexagonal edges of the nut are blunt thus the allen key wont fit tightly.
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toshiyap wrote:Hi, the nut is now bigger than my allen key slightly , i believe some of the hexagonal edges of the nut are blunt thus the allen key wont fit tightly. So basically you stripped the saddle lock down nut. Is that correct? It's fairly easy to order the part from Rich Harris over at www.ibanezrulez.com. You can also call the number in my sig. if you want to see about ordering the part from Ibanez.
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Thanks, but how do I go about removing the spoiled nut?
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toshiyap wrote:Thanks, but how do I go about removing the spoiled nut? Is it raised enough for you to get a pair of needle nose pliers around the head and turn it? If not, you can get specialized wrenched at any hardware store that are made to aid in pulling/turning striped bolts.
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You can use a Dremel cut off wheel or a fine file and cut a slot in the top of the bolt. Then use an appropriately sized screwdriver and unscrew the stripped bolt. Sometimes a fine set of needle nose pliers can unscrew the offending bolt if it isn't cinched down too tightly. And there's always a reverse tap. As you may have guessed...I've stripped out an intonation bolt or three. 
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wow you torqued that poor little thing
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Go to any hardware store and get a screw extractor, also called an "easy out". Take your allen wrench with you so you know what size to get. They can be reverse spiraled like the ones shown or square tapered with sharp corners. Since the head is already recessed you shouldn't need to drill a hole.  I have a set of these and they work great. One end is a reverse drill bit and the other is the extractor. 
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I saw max gave you the link to Rich's website, but heres the direct link to the actual page youll need if you wanna do this with a drill bit. http://www.ibanezrules.com/tech/setup/rounded_head.htmI know how overwhelming his site can be if you havnt frequented it alot. The first time I couldnt find anything, but over time I was able to end up reading every section he posted, without it being too information at once. The intonation screws seems to be made from pretty soft metal, so they are pretty delicate, order some new ones (might as well order a few in case it happens again) and just be extra careful in the future when turning the allen wrench.
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Rich's way will work just fine as long as it isn't cross threaded.
I would still try an extractor first. You can always do the drill
method if the extractor doesn't work.
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Wow you guys are very helpful, I am gonna pop buy some stores, what is the technical term for this nut? In terrms of size
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It's an allen head screw. If memory serves me it's a
3mm (the size of the recess not the screw itself).
I have no idea what the thread size is. I wouldn't
expect to find a replacement screw at the hardware store.
Possible but not probable. The extractor should be no
problem.
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excuse me while I cut in for a sec :)
Ibnzad!! Is that black box there a set of those Grab'it things?? I was thinking about getting one because I hate the extractors I have now for anything small. Do they work good??
Back to topic. Extractors are great. the ones that have the left handed drill bits are fantastic. I have had bolts and stuff sometimes come out without even having to use the extractors. The drill bit grabbed it and unscrewed it.
Also make sure you have a good Allen set. I have a cheap set I found, when I just grabbed those real quick instead of getting my good set I noticed they were loose in the bolts. I tried my good set and they fit tight again. So be careful you can strip out those bolts easier by simply using cheap tools.
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