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jimbo6224
#1 Posted : 6/14/2009 3:12:44 PM

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hello all, sorry for my bad english,but i live in france and i speak little english.

i would know many renseignement about my guitar,it's an ibanez 1978,les paul model but ???
they are a custom on the head(but on the pics in the net,i saw the name of the model for example pf200 and sometimes custom),and i dont recognize the model exactly,pf 100/200/2650/2651 other.......im lostDoh
what are the difference of the model custom?

go to the pics ;)














so i want know the model exactly if possible,the type of micro,the quotation of this guitar,personally i buy it 180euro.

thanx for all comment to help me in my search.

i try the option search but it's bug ,no reponse for my search: an error occured in database
MaxOfMetal
#2 Posted : 6/15/2009 4:45:17 PM
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What it looks like you have there is a mid-late seventies "No. 2350". Avery spec matches, from the headstock detail to the bolt-on neck joint. Take a look here.

I'm not quite sure what else your're asking, you're English is pretty good, but I'm not sure what you mean by "the type of micro,the quotation of this guitar,".

I think paying 180euro was a good price, these older "Lawsuit" Ibanez are relatively rare and somewhat sought after.

Hope this helps.
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91' UV7BK "Green Dot"
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jimbo6224
#3 Posted : 6/15/2009 6:37:31 PM

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thanx for help me in my search,it's look like a 2350 with a chrome finition,no gold in my guitar ,i watch all over and the chrome is the color natural,no wear of colour gold.

in comparison of my "ex" ibanez art 120,im very happy,the finition,the look and the sound is great.i love les paul body type, and with this guitar,im not disapointed.

a last question in the link you have done,the date is 1976,the model 2350 is also available in 1978,because the serial number is b780509(february 1978) and i saw the catalog in 1978 and no model 2350 .
MaxOfMetal
#4 Posted : 6/15/2009 7:32:59 PM
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jimbo6224 wrote:
thanx for help me in my search,it's look like a 2350 with a chrome finition,no gold in my guitar ,i watch all over and the chrome is the color natural,no wear of colour gold.

in comparison of my "ex" ibanez art 120,im very happy,the finition,the look and the sound is great.i love les paul body type, and with this guitar,im not disapointed.

a last question in the link you have done,the date is 1976,the model 2350 is also available in 1978,because the serial number is b780509(february 1978) and i saw the catalog in 1978 and no model 2350 .


Around that time is when Ibanez was transitioning from the copies of the early 70's to the more original designs of the late 70's and early 80's. There's a possibility this was a "transition model" where they used whatever parts they had left from the then discontinued "Les Paul" type guitars they made.

It is also possible that the neck-plate could be non-original. Is the serial anywhere else on the body? Also, have you tried checking what, if anything, is stamped in the neck pocket (with neck removed)?

Current Ibanez "Heard":
91' UV7BK "Green Dot"
91' UV7PWH
jimbo6224
#5 Posted : 6/15/2009 8:21:35 PM

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i dont try to remove anything,im a newbie in the world of the guitar and i dont want broke nothing ^^

i try to remove tomorrow the plate behind but i dont want removed the sleeve.i take pics with more better quality if possible .

but i think all piece are original,the colour and the cocordance of every piece are look very great
MaxOfMetal
#6 Posted : 6/15/2009 8:31:45 PM
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jimbo6224 wrote:
i dont try to remove anything,im a newbie in the world of the guitar and i dont want broke nothing ^^

i try to remove tomorrow the plate behind but i dont want removed the sleeve.i take pics with more better quality if possible .

but i think all piece are original,the colour and the cocordance of every piece are look very great


It honestly wont hurt a single thing to take the neck off, as long as you put the neck back on in a short amount of time. It could possibly show you the exact model you have on your hands. Though, if you do a search for the "Ibanez 2350" you'll see there were MANY variations with many different hardware, color, neck joint, and headstock options. Not all were listed in the catalogs either.

Here's a quick "AltaVista" translation. :]
Il honnêtement ne blessera pas une chose simple pour enlever le cou, tant que vous remettez le cou dessus en nombre de heures court. Il pourrait probablement te montrer le modèle exact que vous avez sur vos mains. Bien que, si vous faites une recherche du " ; Ibanez 2350" ; you' ; le ll voient qu'il y avait BEAUCOUP de variations par rapport aux beaucoup matériel différent, couleur, joint de cou, et options de poupée. Pas tous ont été répertoriés l'un ou l'autre.
Current Ibanez "Heard":
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91' UV7PWH
jimbo6224
#7 Posted : 6/16/2009 5:39:50 AM

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thx for the translation,in this site http://www.guitareelectrique.com/argus_iba.html
1974/1978 2350 Style Custom Les Paul, the model 2350 finish in 1978,i think your first answer is right.

I knows finally my model with your help,i try to take better pics for galery ;)
Ruler5000
#8 Posted : 6/16/2009 9:15:23 AM
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In 1976 Ibanez changed the headstock of their les paul models from the Gibson open book headstock to a more Gretsch inspired headstock. This changes was done prior to the Gibson law-suit of 1977. After that law-suit Ibanez was forced to stop making exact copies of other brands, leading to the first line-up with all new designs (some still losely based upon the les paul and other Gibsons).
There are catalogues of 1978 showing the copy models, but to my knowledge these have never come on the market after the law-suit. The catalogues were already printed by then so some of these might have made it to distribution.
My Ibby's:
1975 2845 western acoustic
1977 2354S SG custom copy Mahogany
2002 RG7321 BK
1993 RG450 PN
2006 RGTHRG2 N.Y. City XI (Exotic)
2009 RGA32 MOL
2010 RGA42 BK
2005 SRX350 NT

Non-Ibby's:
1999 AriaProII MAC50 Tansparent Blue
1997 Manuel Serrang Spanish acoustic
bl@k0ut
#9 Posted : 7/10/2009 1:34:25 AM
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Ah man. This guitar reminds me of my Goldtop Pre-Lawsuit Ibanez I had.
Mine just had a different head stock inlay though.
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