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glenn
#1 Posted : 4/13/2007 2:06:07 PM
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<P>I just read on the epi forum that epi's are made be Samick.&nbsp; Isn't it the same company that makes Ibanez artcores?&nbsp; Same place different guitars? Different Quality? hmmmmmmmmmmm....</P>
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#1 Posted : 4/14/2007 7:06:19 AM
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Samick makes guitars for everyone - Washburn, Ibanez, Epi, Fernandez, etc.&nbsp; Same quality for all.&nbsp; Some are hits, some are misses but for the most part you get a decent product for what you pay.
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#1 Posted : 4/14/2007 10:51:00 AM
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<P>How have you got so much info?&nbsp; Do you just do research?&nbsp; I see that you are really into this forum (and Ibanez).&nbsp;You don't seen to be making this stuff up.&nbsp;I've found a place in NYC to check out a AS103.&nbsp; Matt Umanov's. His&nbsp; reputation is legendary.I realize they're probably too big for you based on your AM comments, but i'm still curious about how the ceramic 58's compare to the super 58 alnicos.</P><!-- Message ''"" -->
glenn
#1 Posted : 4/14/2007 1:25:49 PM
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<P>You're not any older than me.</P>
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<P>HENDRIX WAS <EM>AMAZING.&nbsp; Didn't really matter what&nbsp;guitar he&nbsp;had to play. All the rest is just stuff</EM></P>
cogs
#1 Posted : 4/15/2007 1:01:51 AM
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I find that interesting, I know that Samick makes guitars for tons of companys but I alway thought Ibanez had it's own factories, kinda like Yamaha, to better control the quality of their product, a quote unquote - world factory, I don't have any real facts to support this but that was always the feeling I had because their products all seem to have the same level quality across the range, that would be hard to achieve using different factories. Either way I don't really mind, just intersting how the manufacturing world works these days
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glenn
#1 Posted : 4/15/2007 8:25:36 AM
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<P>I believe that's true to some extent.&nbsp; <EM>Companies can build down a lot easier than they can build up.</EM></P>
<P>Not that I have one but ...mercedes can build chryslers but I don't think they would let chrysler build mercedes -even though they own the plants.</P>
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#1 Posted : 4/15/2007 8:33:03 PM
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I've played a lot of crap guitars out there, so it leads me to believe it is hard to achieve a quailty product across an entire range especially the huge volumes that are being produced
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#1 Posted : 4/15/2007 9:21:59 PM
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<p><em></em></p><em><font color="#0000cc">I have never seen an Artcore Custom in real life.&nbsp; I would love to though.&nbsp; </font></em><span style="font-style: italic;"><br><br></span>
<br><br>Wow!&nbsp; I find that hard to believe. You seem to know more about Ibanez guitars that anyone else.
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#1 Posted : 4/16/2007 1:53:26 PM
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<P>I think the quality of many of the Ibanez models is simply the Chinese demonstrating their manufacturing capabilities. I mean, what isn't manufactured in China these days?</P>
<P>Since Japan now manufactures at least one 'top-end' guitar (Gretsch)their quality will probably drop, as has been the case with Gibson in the U.S.</P>
<P>Korea does a good job with their Gibson copies, but the Chinese have acheived a better standard, at least as far as Ibanez models go.</P>
<P>It's a global economy and the U.S is losing out. Like everyone knows; why pay $2000 for an American made axe when you can spend $400 for a Chinese model with comparable if not better quality?</P>
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#1 Posted : 4/16/2007 3:08:47 PM
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<P><EM></EM></P><EM><FONT color=#0000cc>I have never seen an Artcore Custom in real life.&nbsp; I would love to though.&nbsp; </FONT></EM><SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic"><BR></SPAN></TD></TR></T></TABLE></TD></TR></T></TABLE></TD></TR></T></TABLE>They can ship and sell them half way around the world.&nbsp; Surely you could find one <EM>somewhere </EM>to handle
glenn
#1 Posted : 4/16/2007 7:14:21 PM
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<P>GC is not really my idea of a great place to shop.&nbsp; UNfortunately its one of the only places around.</P>
<P>I think rustyohus should take over the GC universe as well</P>
<P>I'll take a sunburst AS 103 please? </P>
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#2 Posted : 12/19/2007 5:55:58 PM
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"I just read on the epi forum that epi's are made be Samick. Isn't it the same company that makes Ibanez artcores?"

Only some Epi's were made at Samick, Saien, and other plants in Korea. Some good like the two mentioned and some of lesser quality from other plants. Today most if not all Epi's are made at Gibson's new plant in China and sport EE in front of the Serial numbers.
I just got an Ibanez AG86TRD and like the feel and sound of it better than the Epi Les Paul (which I liked better than the Gibson ES-137 Classic I had). Don't get me wrong the ES-137C was one of the most beautiful looking guitars I have owned but the tall/wide/flattop frets soon wore me down. I really preferred the Epi LP Neck, that is until I played a lesser expensive Ibanez (I believe an 83 model). That cinched it for me. Had to order the AG86 which I was really liking the looks of. This guitar just came today so I have only spent a small amount of time with it but I can tell you, I love the looks, the feel and playability, and the tone. I have some Gibson 57 Classic's which I may put in but they are open coil. Not sure. May just put some Pure Nickel wraps on it first and see how it goes.
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