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mdbeau01
#1 Posted : 8/11/2007 7:10:29 PM
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<P>jazzgirl mentioned something that caught my eye in the post thread "New guy".&nbsp; She said:</P>
<P>"The "Super 58" pickups in Artcore Custom guitars are actually "Custom 58" or "Super 58 Custom" pickups.&nbsp; They are not the same as Super 58 pickups.&nbsp; Super 58's have AlNiCo magnets while Custom 58's have ceramic magnets.&nbsp; That is why the Custom 58's can sound so sharp or bright.</P>
<P>I do like Super 58 pickups a lot and I do prefer them to the standard Artcore ACH pickups.&nbsp; I would like to have a chance to hear the Custom 58's though."</P>
<P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; My question to the Ibanez forum folks is this:&nbsp; Are the '58's that are sold by Ibanez thru catalog / parts sales the Super 58's (w/alnico's) or the Custom 58's (w/ceramics)????&nbsp; And has anyone installed them and can render feedback on their performance in an Artcore, you know, ACH's vs Super 58's, a before and after kind of thing.&nbsp; What I'm looking to find out is whether or not the catalog '58's are like the 58's of old.&nbsp; And are they the thing for an AM73. </P>
<P>Thanks - mdbeau01</P>
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Dizzy Fingers
#1 Posted : 8/11/2007 7:53:35 PM
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<P>Quote: "I miss Rusty"</P>
<P>Ask "JazzGirl"...<IMG src="smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"></P>
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mdbeau01
#1 Posted : 8/11/2007 10:20:58 PM
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<P>Thanks for the info.&nbsp; I had reluctance to&nbsp;order the 58's from Guitar Center as&nbsp;I didn't really have a clear idea what&nbsp;I was going to get.&nbsp;</P>
<P>I believe I'll go with the&nbsp;DiMarzio PAF's - something&nbsp;I know and can get cheaper.&nbsp; You saved me money, thanks again - mdbeau01&nbsp;</P>
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BillB1960
#1 Posted : 8/12/2007 9:01:34 AM

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I just ordered a set of GFS PAFs from the folks over at Guitarfetish. I'm not quite ambitious enough to attempt replacing the pickups in a semi hollow like my AM yet but I have a solid body that's just screaming for a decent set of p'ups. I've used some of their singles in a in a strat and was very impressed, they compared very favorably to some name brand, high end p'ups. They've gotten very good reviews on Harmony-Central and at $70 for a set of 2 it's hard to beat the price.
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#1 Posted : 8/12/2007 6:56:35 PM
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<span style="font-family: Courier New,Courier,mono;">What <span style="font-style: italic;">hasn't</span> gotten very good reviews on Harmony Central?</span>
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#1 Posted : 8/13/2007 10:47:30 AM

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All public forums have their share of slack-jawed mouth-breathers, self professed experts, bitter acerbic posters, shill posters, etc. so one must -- out the wheat from the chaff when using that particular medium to evaluate any product especially one with so many subjective qualities like guitar pickups. However, providing there are enough reviews that appear to be written by people with more than 2 brain cells (which can be a rarity in the guitar playing community) I tend to treat the reviews at Harmony Central with a significant amount of weight and to date I have found that they are for the most part accurate.
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maytag
#1 Posted : 8/16/2007 12:21:04 PM
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anyone tried seymour hot rodded pair... sh-2 jazz and sh-4 jb in an artcore?
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#1 Posted : 8/18/2007 9:49:21 AM
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<P>In reply to jazzgirl, you&nbsp;DID save me money.&nbsp; I have a shoebox full of pickups that I don't care for, and&nbsp;I don't wish to add to that collection.&nbsp; If&nbsp;I spend $150 ~ $180, and get what&nbsp;I want - - that then is an effecient use of my money.&nbsp; Popping pick ups in and out of a guitar can become a expensive exercise.&nbsp; Now that&nbsp;I know the part numbering scheme (thank you, jazzgirl !) and understand that I won't get the real Super 58's of old, I'll go with the SD or DiMarzios. So thanks again.</P>
<P>In reply to Sammy sneeze, I tend to agree with you.&nbsp; Very few people will post to Harmony Central and say that their equipment purchase was a total disapoinment.&nbsp; I have seen some of the posts for items I have bought.&nbsp; Those items were not musical, quality built, or worth what&nbsp;I paid and I saw folks say quite the opposite - - to my amazement.&nbsp; I think what you have to do is try equipment first, then seek the best deal.&nbsp; Be your own best friend, let your ears be your judge.</P>
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#1 Posted : 8/18/2007 11:44:53 AM

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I'm certainly not advocating using Harmony Central as the sole source for a purchasing decision but sometimes it's not possible to actually use the specific product prior to purchasing it. Guitar pickups are a prime example as evidenced by your "shoebox full of pickups that I don't care for". As I said previously, items as subjective as guitar pickups are extremely difficult to review since they can be affected by the guitar, amp, player style, etc. Even some of the most expensive, hand wound, boutique pickups don't get universally good reviews and I'm sure that some of the models you have in your shoebox are the cat's pajamas for some other folks. <br><br>I've used GFS single coils before and they seem to live up to the reviews they received on H-C if not actually the hype that Jay from Guitarfetish posts on his website so I'm willing to try the PAFs which have gotten even better reviews than the singles did. In fact pretty much every piece of gear I've gotten that has a review on H-C has lived up (or down) to the overall rating.<br>
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#1 Posted : 8/22/2007 12:59:35 PM

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Just for the record I received the new GFS pickups and installed them the other day (not in my AM73) and I'm extremely satisfied with the upgrade. I put a Vintage 59 in the neck and Fat PAF in the bridge and the difference is amazing. It's a whole new guitar. Not only do they sound better but they are ultra quiet as far as hum goes unlike the pickups they replaced and the ones in my AM.
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Dizzy Fingers
#1 Posted : 8/23/2007 8:22:09 AM
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<P>I would of not believed it either Bill but a pup of your choosing can make a world of difference...! I'm happy that you found what you like...!</P>
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