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Ibanez RGA8 stock pickups IBZ-LZ Max voltage
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#1 Posted : 7/5/2011 10:08:58 AM

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Hi does anyone know what the maximum voltage is that the IBZ-LZ 8 (RGA8 stock pickups) can handle? It is currently running on 2 AA batteries.
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#2 Posted : 7/5/2011 2:48:46 PM
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Don't even think about it. They are not EMG's, so don't even think about doubling the voltage to get extra headroom.
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#3 Posted : 7/5/2011 6:01:39 PM
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#4 Posted : 7/5/2011 6:03:59 PM

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Damn...the pickups sound so muddy was hoping that there was a 6V mod or something lol
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#5 Posted : 7/5/2011 11:34:25 PM
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Probably better to just replace the pickups instead of trying a mod and having the wiring melt/catch fire :P
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#6 Posted : 7/6/2011 7:45:49 AM
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They're muddy because Ibanez wasn't trying to recreate the low output but ultra 'icepick' like tones of EMG's as some people find these to be quite 'sterile' (stays sharp under heavy distortion though). Instead, they went for a slightly higher output (hence the need for only a 3v pre-amp boost) pickup that doesn't retain as much clarity under heavy distortion as EMG's but have more 'warmth' to their tone. They sound better with the lower gain settings.

If you want clarity under heavy distortion then either get some EMG actives or go for something like a Dimarzio Evolution (which also have that sharp 'icepick' like tone that gives good string definition under heavy gain).
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#7 Posted : 7/6/2011 9:50:38 AM
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Ouija wrote:
If you want clarity under heavy distortion then either get some EMG actives or go for something like a Dimarzio Evolution (which also have that sharp 'icepick' like tone that gives good string definition under heavy gain).


Uh, is the evolution not only available for 6 and 7 string guitars. As far as I can find Dimarzio only has an 8 string versions of the D Activator pups.
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#8 Posted : 7/6/2011 3:07:15 PM
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#9 Posted : 7/7/2011 6:02:46 AM
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Doesn't matter, your explanation on why the acive Ibanez pups sound different from EMGs is really good. It clearly shows the differences in design and the sound you get from them.

As its an 8-string RGA8 you have a more limit choice in pups. EMG has the 808 and 808x pups, which are used by many different guitar manufacturers. Bare knuckle has a wide range of 8 string pups available. Dimarzio has the 8 string version of the D Activators and SD has an 8 string version of the Blackouts. So there are definately good pups out there that could are not as muddy when using high amounts of gain.

If I'm not mistaken does Dino Cazares use blackouts in his 8 string guitars, but he definately also has used 808 pups. So these might be the best two places to start looking into.
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1975 2845 western acoustic
1977 2354S SG custom copy Mahogany
2002 RG7321 BK
1993 RG450 PN
2006 RGTHRG2 N.Y. City XI (Exotic)
2009 RGA32 MOL
2010 RGA42 BK
2005 SRX350 NT

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1999 AriaProII MAC50 Tansparent Blue
1997 Manuel Serrang Spanish acoustic
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#10 Posted : 11/1/2013 8:27:50 AM

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Hi, anyone knows for sure which wire of the the IBZ-LZ 8 (RGA8 stock pickups) to connect to positive voltage ? I am not, so very afraid to ruin them.

Mike.
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#11 Posted : 11/1/2013 12:37:35 PM
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Originally Posted by: Mike Severloh Go to Quoted Post
Hi, anyone knows for sure which wire of the the IBZ-LZ 8 (RGA8 stock pickups) to connect to positive voltage ? I am not, so very afraid to ruin them.


This wiring diagram should help. This says "RGA42 / RGA42FM" but it is the same setup for the RGA8 guitar:


Hope this helps,
-Bill
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#12 Posted : 5/6/2014 3:32:41 PM

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Hi all.

Do you have an idea of the exact voltage range (min and max) those pickups can take ?

Like, if one wanted to use rechargeable batteries (2 x 1.2 V), that would probably be too low, but then what about adding a step-up regulator ?

Something like this: https://www.sparkfun.com/products/10967. That's 3.3 V. Would that be too high ?

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Originally Posted by: JeromeIbanez Go to Quoted Post
Hi all.

Do you have an idea of the exact voltage range (min and max) those pickups can take ?

Like, if one wanted to use rechargeable batteries (2 x 1.2 V), that would probably be too low, but then what about adding a step-up regulator ?

Something like this: https://www.sparkfun.com/products/10967. That's 3.3 V. Would that be too high ?



I'm not sure if there is an actual range of voltage it can take, but I wouldn't use anything but 3v. The circuit board used in this EQ probably requires the 3 volts as well, so giving it a lower or higher voltage could damaged the EQ board in this model.

Hope this helps,
-Bill
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#14 Posted : 5/6/2014 7:21:42 PM

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OK. Thanks for answering.

There has to be a range, even a limited one, though.

I mean, no battery is perfect. The output voltage decreases with time (down to 0 V, in fact) but the pickups don't cease to work at 2.999 V.
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