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#1 Posted : 11/25/2006 3:07:11 PM
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<P>what the heck is the difference between an acoustic guitar and a cl--ical guitar? </P>
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#1 Posted : 11/25/2006 3:12:36 PM
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<P>Don't feel stupid.&nbsp; Stupid may not want you to feel him!&nbsp; j/k</P>
<P>A cl--ical guitar is also an acoustic instrument, but cl--icals (censors having a field day) have nylon strings.&nbsp; Generally it is accepted that when one says 'acoustic', one is referring to steel string, and claszical is nylon.&nbsp; </P>
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#1 Posted : 11/26/2006 6:17:33 AM
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Steel strungs, like electrics, tend to have a truss rod because of the
high tension of the strings (which will bend the neck without one).
Nylon strung cl--icals tend not to have these (though some do). They
also have humungously wide necks (steel strungs have necks/fretboards
more like a electric). I always thing of them as'Spanish Guitars'. <br>

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#1 Posted : 11/26/2006 6:31:26 AM
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Yep those are the differences the only other one is the materials used. Usually acoustic&nbsp;manufacturers&nbsp;use&nbsp;any type of wood to get different tones but cl--ical's are usually not as diversified they usually have cedar tops and rosewood back and sides. Sometimes this isn't the case, but usually it is. Cl--ical's are really common beginner guitars in their cheapest forums, they help people learn the guitar with minimum finger pain and callusing as well as make fingering easy because of the unradiused&nbsp;neck nd wide string spread. But, a good cl--ical guitar is extremely rare these days easily costing in excess of $20,000 usually. I mean a real professional cl--ical guitarist's guitar like what Christopher Parkening uses or Andres Segovia would have used.&nbsp;The $1000-$5000 cl--ical's are just okay (at least my cl--ical guitarist dad says so) Sometimes they have different appointments that make them into a Flamenco (no the bird) guitar, usually different materials and such.
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#1 Posted : 11/26/2006 7:40:15 AM
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i think cl--ical are a bit easier to play.
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#1 Posted : 11/26/2006 6:17:53 PM
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Any of you guys ever try the Ibanez cl--ical in the AE series?&nbsp; For example, the AEG10NEBKF? I'm curious about their sound.
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#1 Posted : 11/26/2006 6:33:56 PM
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<P>Sometimes it's nice to just sit and play with a cl--ical guitar for a quiet evening.&nbsp; It can be very relaxing.</P>
<P>I've tried the AEG10 nylon string and liked it quite a bit but didn't buy it.&nbsp; I don't know why, I probably should get one.&nbsp; This old Yamaha I've got is fallling apart.</P>
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#1 Posted : 11/26/2006 6:41:44 PM
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Yeah it is nice to do a lot of the times.
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#1 Posted : 11/29/2006 10:37:58 AM
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<P>There are so many independant luthiers from every country that makes cl--ical guitars, its mind boggling!&nbsp; Usually anything under $1000 - $1500&nbsp;is considered a student model, but there are a huge variety of intermediate models in the $1500-$3000 price range that are very very good.&nbsp; Spruce tops are traditional with rosewood back and sides.&nbsp; Cedar tops were not introduced until the 60s by the Ramirez family when they started experimenting with different tone woods for the top.&nbsp; I love to play cl--ical guitar and I always will,&nbsp; There are so many variations of tones and shading that you can get using flesh and nails that you just cant get with a pick and steel strings.&nbsp; Plus, really fast and complicated fingerstyle sounds better on a cl--ical guitar because the instrument is designed for better separation of sound when it comes to playing individual notes that combine b-- and trebles to create one voice.&nbsp; Its difficult to understand if you don't play cl--ical.</P>
<P>Technically its: 3 nylon trebles with 3 nylon b--es wound in silver usually.&nbsp; Nylon was the first material used, and Andres Segovia intially tried some crued nylon from the dupont company&nbsp;during World War 2 and didnt like the sound and hoped it could be improved, he was trying to improve upon&nbsp;gut strings that would easily break and get out of tune and lacked the tone/sustain he was looking for.&nbsp; Segovia teamed up with a guitar maker named Albert Augustine who experimented with an army surplus of nylon that he found.&nbsp; With the backing of Dupont to provide the materials Albert Augustine spent the next few years developing a treated nylon filament to replace gut strings at the time.&nbsp;</P>
<P>too much info?<IMG src="smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0"></P><edited><editID>cglover</editID><editDate>2006-11-29 10:56:22</editDate></edited>
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