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bluesguy62
#1 Posted : 6/29/2017 5:15:46 PM
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Hi all, this is a "Roadstar II" that I'm working on. The neck plate serial number indicates that it "was made at the Terada Plant, Japan on April, 1984" (Guitar Dater Project). The neck appears to be from either a 1984 production RS 130, 135 or 225, based on these specs: (i) 1 piece maple neck, (ii) 22 frets, (iii) 25.5" scale length, (iv) graphite nut, and (v) Smooth Tuner II machine heads ("84 RoadstarII Standard Series" catalog, p.2).

The body features routing for 2 humbuckers, "Dead End" strap buttons, and a "Brass I" hardtail bridge. However, the only Roadstar II with a Brass I bridge is the RS130, but it has 3 single coils ("84 RoadstarII Standard Series" catalog, pp. 2-3). That means this body cannot be from an RS130.

The closest matches to this body I've found are (i) a BL-50 (1981 "Ibanez Electric Guitars" catalog, pp. 10-11) and (ii) a BL170 ("82 Ibanez Blazer and Studio Series Electric Guitars" catalog, pp. 4-5). The BL-50 features a solid mahogany body, and the BL170; solid ash.

Having removed the black paintjob and veneer on both the front and back, the body appears to be solid wood (3 pieces). Does it look like mahogany or ash? (please see attached pic). And if it's not a BL-50 or BL170, what could it be?

I hope that some kind soul can shed some light on this "Roadstar II." Any input would be appreciated greatly. Kindly reply in this forum or email me directly at "bluesguy62@gmail.com". Thank you very much for reading this post.
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Bill@Ibanez
#2 Posted : 6/29/2017 8:03:26 PM
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This is a tough one!

I think you are on the right track though. Either some sort of frankenstein using different RS parts, or possibly some sort of smaller run model. Ibanez could have released something mid year, or as a short run that never made it into the full production catalog. Unfortunately, there isn't much way to tell unless we happen to stumble across a catalog page with that model in it.

Hope this helps,
-Bill
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bluesguy62 on 6/30/2017(UTC)
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#3 Posted : 6/30/2017 5:26:52 PM
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Bill, thank you for your views, encouragement and links. Yes, this guitar is either a "frankenstein," or a one-off model on a short production run. Going with the "frankenstein" theory, if someone could positively identify the body wood; it would narrow things down quite a bit. If it's mahogany, then it's a BL-50 body, and if it's ash; a BL170. I'm attaching a larger picture of the body in this post, in the hope that your kind self, or some other generous soul could identify the body wood. Thanks in advance.
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Bill@Ibanez
#4 Posted : 7/3/2017 6:27:04 PM
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It could be the lighting but it doesn't look like Mahogany or Ash to me. I am by no means an expert in identifying wood, so someone else more qualified can probably confirm for sure what it is or isn't.

I would consider this a more random guess based on woods Ibanez has used and googled pictures of said wood, but I'll take my random stab in the dark as maybe basswood?

Good luck!
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bluesguy62 on 7/4/2017(UTC)
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#5 Posted : 7/4/2017 5:55:36 PM
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Thank you, Bill. I believe you're right. The wood certainly does not look like mahogany or ash.
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