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Tri-Sound. What's the difference between Coil Tap and Series
DugT
#1 Posted : 8/4/2017 12:17:06 AM

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What is supposed to be the tonal difference between Coil Tap and Series Settings with the Tri-Sound switch? Are there situations or types of music where one works better than the other? They sound very similar to me but maybe if I cranked up the gain more....???

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#2 Posted : 8/4/2017 1:03:03 AM
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The tri-sound switch offers series, split and parallel modes from humbuckig pickups.

Series is the standard mode for humbucking pickups. The sound is very full bodied and louder than split or parallel.

Split turns off one of the coils in the humbucker. This sounds almost like a single coil pickup but not quite. Since the second coil is turned off the output drops and the humbucker will hum just like a single coil.

Parallel is an alternate way to configure a humbucker that maintains the humbucking ability of the pickup but output is reduced. The output is a little louder than when the pickup is in split mode. The tone is also very similar to a single coil tone but not quite - and in a different way than simply splitting the humbucker.

All three of these modes have their own tonal color that differs from each other. If you are not hearing any difference at all, it could be due to over processing in your signal chain. Try playing the guitar straight into your amp without any effects at all and experiment with those different tonal colors.

As for myself, I very rarely use the split mode because 60 cycle hum drives me nutty - but occasionally I want that specific tonal color.


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#3 Posted : 8/4/2017 4:12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by: Tracy Dae Go to Quoted Post
The tri-sound switch offers series, split and parallel modes from humbuckig pickups.

Series is the standard mode for humbucking pickups. The sound is very full bodied and louder than split or parallel.

Split turns off one of the coils in the humbucker. This sounds almost like a single coil pickup but not quite. Since the second coil is turned off the output drops and the humbucker will hum just like a single coil.

Parallel is an alternate way to configure a humbucker that maintains the humbucking ability of the pickup but output is reduced. The output is a little louder than when the pickup is in split mode. The tone is also very similar to a single coil tone but not quite - and in a different way than simply splitting the humbucker.

All three of these modes have their own tonal color that differs from each other. If you are not hearing any difference at all, it could be due to over processing in your signal chain. Try playing the guitar straight into your amp without any effects at all and experiment with those different tonal colors.

As for myself, I very rarely use the split mode because 60 cycle hum drives me nutty - but occasionally I want that specific tonal color.




Thanks, Tracy for your excellent explanation!
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#4 Posted : 8/5/2017 2:11:51 AM
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You are very welcome. Happy

I have four AR guitars that have them. Two are my main gigging guitars so I use those different voices a lot since the different bands I play with cover a variety of classic 60's, 70's and 80's rock and some modern country.

Here is a pic with my main two in it and below that is my AR620, which I do use for special occasions.




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#5 Posted : 8/5/2017 4:16:24 AM

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You have a nice quiver of guitars! I like them all but the blue 420 and black 620 are my favorites.

I just have one electric guitar and it is an AR720. Did you notice that many of the new AR's don't have Tri-Sound? I was surprised at that because it seems so useful.

by the way, now I hear a distinct difference between Serial, Parallel and single coil. My latest strategy is to keep both pups switched to parallel while I try to learn the different effects built into my Boss Katana !00 amp.

You inspired me to take a decent photo of my AR720.

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#6 Posted : 8/6/2017 6:34:14 AM
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Originally Posted by: DugT Go to Quoted Post
You have a nice quiver of guitars! I like them all but the blue 420 and black 620 are my favorites.


The blue one is actually an AR320... The only difference between the AR320 and the AR420 is that the AR420 has fancier binding. The AR320 was a dealer exclusive model only available from GC or MF. This was also the case for the 12-string AR3212 in the middle.


Originally Posted by: DugT Go to Quoted Post
Did you notice that many of the new AR's don't have Tri-Sound?


Yes I noticed that two AR models do not have Tri-Sound switches. I also noticed that both of them have enough room to add them if one wanted to do so.



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by the way, now I hear a distinct difference between Serial, Parallel and single coil. My latest strategy is to keep both pups switched to parallel while I try to learn the different effects built into my Boss Katana !00 amp.


I got a chance to try the Katana 100 head and really liked it. I've not yet had a chance to try either of the combos but I am reading and seeing a lot of good talk about them online.
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#7 Posted : 8/6/2017 7:00:21 PM

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I just looked more closely at your photos and I should have seen the two guitars that are AR320's. The mother-of-pearl binding trim is more conspicuous in person.

I haven't seen an AR620 like yours with the nice mother-of-pearl in the middle of the body. Is yours custom?

So far I haven't seen any bad reviews for the Katana 100w and most owners love it. Some say the tone is the most tube like available without the inconvenience of tubes. That was Boss's goal when they designed it.
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#8 Posted : 8/7/2017 12:50:36 AM
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I haven't seen an AR620 like yours with the nice mother-of-pearl in the middle of the body. Is yours custom?


Not sure what you are seeing. There is no MOP in the middle of the body. I have upgraded the Bridge, machine heads and wiring harness but the color and inlay work is bog stock (as Shane would say). LOL



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So far I haven't seen any bad reviews for the Katana 100w and most owners love it. Some say the tone is the most tube like available without the inconvenience of tubes. That was Boss's goal when they designed it.


Roland/Boss achieved that goal back in the 90's with the first generation Blues Cubes. I have had people argue with me and insist that my mid-90's BC60 is a tube amp. Haha... As if to say "You're a girl. What do you know?". LOL

Other brands have achieved it in the past with specific models as well. Fender with their first generation 2x10 Princeton Chorus and 1x12 Deluxe 112+ and Peavey with their red stripe 1x12 Bandit. With the literal sea of amps available it's no wonder that those could get missed. I have all three as well as the mid 90's Blues Cubes. Actually, my main gigging amp for the past year or so has been my modified 2x10 Princeton Chorus. I did the mod myself and the change makes it sound even more like a tube amp. I get at least one compliment on my tone from someone in the crowd every time I play out.

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#9 Posted : 8/7/2017 4:04:04 PM

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If you look closely at the photo of your AR620, there are white lines on the left side of the body. They are about the width of the MOP trim. The lines are probaby light reflecting from the contours of the face of the guitar.

The "You're a girl so what do you know" mentality must get tiresome. I don't see much of that in Silicon Valley where I've lived for the last 45 years. I've worked with many women who were engineers and electronic techs and project managers. The attitude here is we are all people with various skills and gender doesn't make much difference. I imagine much of the world isn't there yet.
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