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What does "Mint condition" mean to you when buying used?
Tracy Dae
#1 Posted : 6/30/2011 10:05:47 AM
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To me, "Mint condition" means it is as is left the factory...

Apparently, this is not the common definition of "Mint condition".

Here is an example of the discrepancy. Stickers on the body do not qualify as mint condition to me.

What do ya'll think Mint condition means?
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#2 Posted : 6/30/2011 10:11:57 AM
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The condition of the instrument might be mint. If the sticker can be "removed easily without residue" as the listing suggests, then I wouldn't necessarily call him wrong. Although, I do agree that it should be 100% in the condition it was recieved to make that sort of claim.
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#4 Posted : 6/30/2011 10:46:16 AM
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this one is tricky.... it does appear to be in perfect condition. very close to mint i suppose except for the sticker. i would have gone with "like new"
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#3 Posted : 6/30/2011 11:20:51 AM
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Tom@Ibanez wrote:
Although, I do agree that it should be 100% in the condition it was recieved to make that sort of claim.


I see this kind of thing a lot. I have even seen guitars that had been extensively "upgraded" described as "Mint condition". It leads me to wonder what mint condition means to other people...



seefox wrote:
this one is tricky....


I don't think there is anything tricky about it. This guitar is not "Mint". The sellers claim is false.

In another thread, you asked me how my guitars are in such good condition. My understanding and attitude about this sort of thing might have something to do with it. I am very picky when buying used stuff - when and if at all possible.


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#5 Posted : 6/30/2011 12:32:29 PM
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"MINT Condition" came from coin collecting, and is defined as a pre-owned item that is in the same condition that it came to the buyer DIRECTLY FROM THE SOURCE, un-changed. If someone puts stickers on, changes pickups, etc. it is no longer MINT condition.

*in this case, he should have removed the sticker himself before listing this guitar as MINT.
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#6 Posted : 6/30/2011 12:52:39 PM
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^ agreed.
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#7 Posted : 6/30/2011 12:56:51 PM
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Tracy wrote:
My understanding and attitude about this sort of thing might have something to do with it. I am very picky when buying used stuff - when and if at all possible.


correct me if i'm wrong... but i believe it's safe to assume that you have already contacted this seller? maybe you can talk him down from his mint price
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#9 Posted : 6/30/2011 1:31:21 PM
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People generally throw the term "mint" around more than they should. Usually they mean to say "good" or "excellent" but "mint" grabs a little more attention. Point out flaws and see if you can get them to come off the price.
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#8 Posted : 6/30/2011 1:31:40 PM
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seefox wrote:
correct me if i'm wrong... but i believe it's safe to assume that you have already contacted this seller?


No. The only way I would consider buying a guitar with a flat finish is if the guitar actually is in mint condition and the price is really low. This sellers starting price is way too high for me to consider it. I was just using this listing as an example.

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#10 Posted : 6/30/2011 2:01:00 PM
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ohhh, i don't like the flat either =/

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#11 Posted : 6/30/2011 2:24:47 PM
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seefox wrote:
ohhh, i don't like the flat either =/


If the price was low enough, I would buy it just to see if I can polish the ugly flat out of the finish.

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#12 Posted : 6/30/2011 3:16:44 PM
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that's what i was thinkin! but he's pretending like he's an authorized ibanez dealer/professional sticker applier...
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