Welcome Guest! To enable all features please Login or Register.

Notification

Icon
Error

2 Pages12>
Overhauling my ibby..
eros00
#1 Posted : 2/3/2012 7:01:18 AM

Groups: Member
Joined: 2/2/2012(UTC)
Posts: 7
Location: Philippines
I currently own a 2009 RGA42 and all I can say that everything was exceptional except that I found the stock pickups lacking in some way. The pickups are good with heavy stuff but lacks finesse in doing cleans. It has a very muddy tone on the clean side but instantly gets removed if i turn the active EQ on but makes this natural ODed ring to it.

I have been playing the guitar for almost 5-7 years now (not sure about how long cause I've been skipping to bass and drums all the time.) and my knowledge about the electronic side are really not that great and I would really appreciate it if you guys can help with suggestions/recommendations.

What I need to know are:

- What pickups (active or passive) can you recommend? People say EMGs fit my guitar the best but I'm not really into to metal that much. (cause AFAIK, EMGs are mostly designed for metal. As to what I hear and see but still, correct if I'm wrong. I did say "mostly" though.)

- If I go with passives, what could be the possible use for the EQ switch?

- If I go with actives, do they really need a 9v active power source or do some actives have the same 3v setup with the stock? will it work the same way with the EQ boost?

I'm currently into uhhh...everything I can get my hands (or ears rather..) on. I simply want a guitar that can do bluesy stuff then switch to 90's alternative but can also play heavy 2000ish stuff like Deftones or System of a Down then switch to happy, upbeat sounds of pop/punk and then play a bit of jazz or funk on the sides. Just "versatile" can define the need for an explanation.

Thank you and keep them suggestions coming!
Aguitarnamedzero
#2 Posted : 2/3/2012 12:44:01 PM
Aguitarnamedzero


Groups: Member
Joined: 4/20/2009(UTC)
Posts: 638
Location: , ON, Canada
Was thanked: 6 time(s) in 5 post(s)
if going passive replace the volume pot currently in there with a 500k pot. and you could put anything you wanted in lieu of the eq switch ... a tone control, nothing, an emg booster .. etc

if you're going the emg or blackout route, then you need to replace the pots with 25k ones. also, emg's and the like can do more than metal. 85 in the neck slot can do jazz and random clean stuff like a PAF could. well, with a lot more power as it IS an active. one more thing if you're going active: you can re use the battery box that the loZ pickups used, just cut the bottom off of it and the 9 volt battery will fit without issues
eros00
#3 Posted : 2/3/2012 3:18:51 PM

Groups: Member
Joined: 2/2/2012(UTC)
Posts: 7
Location: Philippines
Thanks for the reply kind sir. I have decided that I would go with the DiMarzio Crunchlab + Liquifire combo for my pickups but still I have questions though.

Is it possible to replace the EQ switch with a push/pull tone control potmeter and will the hardware fit? I haven't opened up my guitar and less likely that I will do it all by myself. A friend suggested that I can put a tone control in place of the EQ switch and at the same time make it a coil tapper switch. My only concern is if the necessary hardware will fit the default cavities in the guitar.
hikaruzero
#4 Posted : 2/3/2012 3:20:02 PM
hikaruzero


Groups: Member
Joined: 5/7/2007(UTC)
Posts: 3,462
Location: United States
Was thanked: 14 time(s) in 14 post(s)
Quote:
- What pickups (active or passive) can you recommend? People say EMGs fit my guitar the best but I'm not really into to metal that much. (cause AFAIK, EMGs are mostly designed for metal. As to what I hear and see but still, correct if I'm wrong. I did say "mostly" though.)


It's hard to recommend a pickup to you without knowing a little more about what you're looking for. Can you be as precise as possible in describing what you want in a pickup? Like for example, you did already say the cleans are muddy so I assume you want a clearer sound -- that indicates you may want something with a little less bass/midrange and more treble frequencies. Is the muddiness the only problem you're looking to solve, or are you also unsatisfied with the overall EQ or power of the pickup, etc. The more specific you can be the better recommendations we can give.

Also you may want to check out Dimarzio.com's Pickup Finder utility to help you choose a pickup. Seymour Duncan also has a pickup comparison applicaton you can use on their site. Both are very helpful!

Quote:
- If I go with passives, what could be the possible use for the EQ switch?


I'm not sure if the EQ switch will work with passive pickups; perhaps someone else can answer this, or some Google searching may reveal the answer.

If it does work with passives, it will work the same way. It looks like it's a mid-cut switch. As mentioned above, cutting out the midrange and boosting the treble tends to "clear up" the sound and make it sharper (but of course the tradeoff is that it has less "oomph" and is drowned out in a mix more easily).

If it doesn't work with passives, you can just replace it with a tone knob or any other type of switch that will work with passives.

Quote:
- If I go with actives, do they really need a 9v active power source or do some actives have the same 3v setup with the stock? will it work the same way with the EQ boost?


Depends on what you replace the pickups with. The vast majority of aftermarket active pickups require a 9V battery as a power source; I don't know of any that require differently. The pickups your guitar came with require only 3V, hence the two AA batteries. So if you go with pickups that require 9V to drive them, you would need to change that (it's not really a big change).

Due to the lower voltage and different construction of the pickups, you'll need to replace the pots either way, with 500K-Ohm pots if you go with passives, and 25K-Ohm (or 50K-Ohm depending on the manufacturer) pots if you go with 9V actives. I'm not sure which pots you have in that guitar but they are probably something around 100K-Ohm or 200K-Ohm.

Quote:
I simply want a guitar that can do bluesy stuff then switch to 90's alternative but can also play heavy 2000ish stuff like Deftones or System of a Down then switch to happy, upbeat sounds of pop/punk and then play a bit of jazz or funk on the sides. Just "versatile" can define the need for an explanation.


I don't know if you will like what I like, but "versatile" was also something I was looking for when I replaced the pickups in my S. I settled on a Dimarzio Tone Zone in the bridge position and a Dimarzio Breed neck model in the neck position. I'm EXTREMELY pleased with the Breed neck model; it is my favorite pickup to date. It's not muddy at all to my ears, but it does have a lot of bass and midrange and less treble, so with a default EQ it may not sound as clear as you are looking for. That being said I scoop the midrange out pretty heavily on my EQ when I play for metal, and I like the extra midrange when I play clean, so ... meh. Ultimately it's your decision, I'm just recommending what I like because it sounds like you are looking for something similar to what I was looking for.
avianoguitarist
#5 Posted : 2/3/2012 6:00:40 PM
avianoguitarist


Groups: Member
Joined: 4/8/2010(UTC)
Posts: 621
Man
Location: La La Land
Thanks: 2 times
Was thanked: 28 time(s) in 27 post(s)
Yes--actives require a 9v power source. That's what makes them active.
My best recommendation for versatile pickups are the DiMarzio Super Distortion in the bridge and a DiMarzio PAF Pro in the neck. This combo has great, clear cleans and has nice punch and grind when distorted. You can get everything from sweet jazzy cleans to Metallica crunch with this combo.
Just another Ibanez freak!

hibidy
#6 Posted : 2/3/2012 7:33:07 PM

Groups: Member
Joined: 7/13/2010(UTC)
Posts: 1,027
Was thanked: 11 time(s) in 11 post(s)
Originally Posted by: avianoguitarist Go to Quoted Post
Yes--actives require a 9v power source. That's what makes them active.
My best recommendation for versatile pickups are the DiMarzio Super Distortion in the bridge and a DiMarzio PAF Pro in the neck. This combo has great, clear cleans and has nice punch and grind when distorted. You can get everything from sweet jazzy cleans to Metallica crunch with this combo.


When I look up these models I notice a couple of things. First, one the "output" of these varies a bit (300 and 425) and the pafpro gives reasonable specs bass/tred/mid but the superdistortions are really bass heavy. Since I've never changed the pups in a guitar could you comment briefly on this?
some ibanez stuff
one squire jazz bass
Hanes
avianoguitarist
#7 Posted : 2/3/2012 7:57:58 PM
avianoguitarist


Groups: Member
Joined: 4/8/2010(UTC)
Posts: 621
Man
Location: La La Land
Thanks: 2 times
Was thanked: 28 time(s) in 27 post(s)
Originally Posted by: hibidy Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: avianoguitarist Go to Quoted Post
Yes--actives require a 9v power source. That's what makes them active.
My best recommendation for versatile pickups are the DiMarzio Super Distortion in the bridge and a DiMarzio PAF Pro in the neck. This combo has great, clear cleans and has nice punch and grind when distorted. You can get everything from sweet jazzy cleans to Metallica crunch with this combo.


When I look up these models I notice a couple of things. First, one the "output" of these varies a bit (300 and 425) and the pafpro gives reasonable specs bass/tred/mid but the superdistortions are really bass heavy. Since I've never changed the pups in a guitar could you comment briefly on this?

Yes--the output varies. You just have to adjust the height of them to suit your needs. The Super Distortion us not nearly as bass heavy as a Tone Zone. This combo produces a fine blend of all types of music. I've got 36 Ibanezes and all have DiMarzios. I've got several combos and this is my favorite. Larry sent me the new Dominion to review and it will arrive today. After I install and review it, I'll post a link to the video. These aren't available for sale yet, but if it sounds as good as Larry said--it might be worth waiting for.
Just another Ibanez freak!

hibidy
#8 Posted : 2/3/2012 8:55:03 PM

Groups: Member
Joined: 7/13/2010(UTC)
Posts: 1,027
Was thanked: 11 time(s) in 11 post(s)
Originally Posted by: avianoguitarist Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: hibidy Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: avianoguitarist Go to Quoted Post
Yes--actives require a 9v power source. That's what makes them active.
My best recommendation for versatile pickups are the DiMarzio Super Distortion in the bridge and a DiMarzio PAF Pro in the neck. This combo has great, clear cleans and has nice punch and grind when distorted. You can get everything from sweet jazzy cleans to Metallica crunch with this combo.


When I look up these models I notice a couple of things. First, one the "output" of these varies a bit (300 and 425) and the pafpro gives reasonable specs bass/tred/mid but the superdistortions are really bass heavy. Since I've never changed the pups in a guitar could you comment briefly on this?

Yes--the output varies. You just have to adjust the height of them to suit your needs. The Super Distortion us not nearly as bass heavy as a Tone Zone. This combo produces a fine blend of all types of music. I've got 36 Ibanezes and all have DiMarzios. I've got several combos and this is my favorite. Larry sent me the new Dominion to review and it will arrive today. After I install and review it, I'll post a link to the video. These aren't available for sale yet, but if it sounds as good as Larry said--it might be worth waiting for.


Thanks. It's really hard to "know" what to get and if I'd be any happier. Will look forward to the review!
some ibanez stuff
one squire jazz bass
Hanes
avianoguitarist
#9 Posted : 2/3/2012 8:55:32 PM
avianoguitarist


Groups: Member
Joined: 4/8/2010(UTC)
Posts: 621
Man
Location: La La Land
Thanks: 2 times
Was thanked: 28 time(s) in 27 post(s)
.....the UPS guy just delivered it, so I'll be dumping this in one if my test Ibbies today. Also--you can visit my blog by clucking "BLOG" under my posts near the PM button. I've got several DiMarzio reviews posted in my Product Review page.

Just another Ibanez freak!

hibidy
#10 Posted : 2/3/2012 8:58:00 PM

Groups: Member
Joined: 7/13/2010(UTC)
Posts: 1,027
Was thanked: 11 time(s) in 11 post(s)


http://www.dimarzio.com/...h-power/dominion-bridge

http://www.dimarzio.com/...umbuckers/dominion-neck

I thought when I was cruising I saw these, I just figured I never noticed them before.
some ibanez stuff
one squire jazz bass
Hanes
avianoguitarist
#11 Posted : 2/3/2012 9:00:27 PM
avianoguitarist


Groups: Member
Joined: 4/8/2010(UTC)
Posts: 621
Man
Location: La La Land
Thanks: 2 times
Was thanked: 28 time(s) in 27 post(s)
Originally Posted by: hibidy Go to Quoted Post


http://www.dimarzio.com/...h-power/dominion-bridge

http://www.dimarzio.com/...umbuckers/dominion-neck

I thought when I was cruising I saw these, I just figured I never noticed them before.



Visit my review page here:

http://diyguitarpainting...product-reviews.html?m=0
Just another Ibanez freak!

avianoguitarist
#12 Posted : 2/3/2012 11:12:45 PM
avianoguitarist


Groups: Member
Joined: 4/8/2010(UTC)
Posts: 621
Man
Location: La La Land
Thanks: 2 times
Was thanked: 28 time(s) in 27 post(s)
Well, I dumped the Dominion in my 760 and it sounds amazing! Haven't done the video yet, but will by tomorrow. It may be my favorite DiMarzio ever!
Just another Ibanez freak!

hibidy
#13 Posted : 2/4/2012 12:06:21 AM

Groups: Member
Joined: 7/13/2010(UTC)
Posts: 1,027
Was thanked: 11 time(s) in 11 post(s)
Oh great, us mere mortals can't get them! Snooty
some ibanez stuff
one squire jazz bass
Hanes
avianoguitarist
#14 Posted : 2/4/2012 4:21:04 AM
avianoguitarist


Groups: Member
Joined: 4/8/2010(UTC)
Posts: 621
Man
Location: La La Land
Thanks: 2 times
Was thanked: 28 time(s) in 27 post(s)
They should be available soon.
Just another Ibanez freak!

eros00
#15 Posted : 2/4/2012 5:31:40 AM

Groups: Member
Joined: 2/2/2012(UTC)
Posts: 7
Location: Philippines
@sir avian
thank you for the response and suggestions and the blog..hehe

I found your reviews very satisfying and looking forward to reading more. As for now, I will settle for the Liquifire and Crunchlab for my current ibby. I maybe getting a PAF Pro + Super Distortion combo in the near future once I've acquired my second ibby.

Just a few questions though:

- I currently have an EQ boost switch in my guitar. Can I just replace it with a push/pull potmeter on the whim? I don't know if the hole is big enough to fit the potmeter.

- Since my guitar doesn't have a tone knob and I'm trying to put one in (first question as reference), will that be a good idea?
avianoguitarist
#16 Posted : 2/4/2012 6:04:03 AM
avianoguitarist


Groups: Member
Joined: 4/8/2010(UTC)
Posts: 621
Man
Location: La La Land
Thanks: 2 times
Was thanked: 28 time(s) in 27 post(s)
That active EQ is just a mid boost, and can surely be removed. I'm not sure if the hole size, but if anything--it's smaller than a typical pot. You can always carefully drill it larger.
The CL/LF combo us nice, too. Got a set from Larry to review a few months ago, and dropped them in one if my 770s. They are very smooth.
Just another Ibanez freak!

eros00
#17 Posted : 2/4/2012 6:33:55 AM

Groups: Member
Joined: 2/2/2012(UTC)
Posts: 7
Location: Philippines
Originally Posted by: avianoguitarist Go to Quoted Post
That active EQ is just a mid boost, and can surely be removed. I'm not sure if the hole size, but if anything--it's smaller than a typical pot. You can always carefully drill it larger.
The CL/LF combo us nice, too. Got a set from Larry to review a few months ago, and dropped them in one if my 770s. They are very smooth.


Do you think they are a great match for Mahogany bodies? For the potmeter, maybe I'll simply consult my local luthier on that one. Haven't been able to contact my luthier for a while now.
avianoguitarist
#18 Posted : 2/4/2012 6:41:06 AM
avianoguitarist


Groups: Member
Joined: 4/8/2010(UTC)
Posts: 621
Man
Location: La La Land
Thanks: 2 times
Was thanked: 28 time(s) in 27 post(s)
Originally Posted by: eros00 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: avianoguitarist Go to Quoted Post
That active EQ is just a mid boost, and can surely be removed. I'm not sure if the hole size, but if anything--it's smaller than a typical pot. You can always carefully drill it larger.
The CL/LF combo us nice, too. Got a set from Larry to review a few months ago, and dropped them in one if my 770s. They are very smooth.


Do you think they are a great match for Mahogany bodies? For the potmeter, maybe I'll simply consult my local luthier on that one. Haven't been able to contact my luthier for a while now.


Yes! I liked them so much, I put another set in my mahogany RG20062 puzzle top.
I just noticed you're in the PI. My wife's from there! There used to be a good guitar shop in the Robinson mall. I don't remember any in the SM Mega mall, though. You in Manila? I actually just drank a can if Royal Tru-Orange 5 minutes ago. That stuff is like crack for me. I always get a case every month when it comes in.
Just another Ibanez freak!

eros00
#19 Posted : 2/4/2012 10:19:27 AM

Groups: Member
Joined: 2/2/2012(UTC)
Posts: 7
Location: Philippines
Originally Posted by: avianoguitarist Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: eros00 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: avianoguitarist Go to Quoted Post
That active EQ is just a mid boost, and can surely be removed. I'm not sure if the hole size, but if anything--it's smaller than a typical pot. You can always carefully drill it larger.
The CL/LF combo us nice, too. Got a set from Larry to review a few months ago, and dropped them in one if my 770s. They are very smooth.


Do you think they are a great match for Mahogany bodies? For the potmeter, maybe I'll simply consult my local luthier on that one. Haven't been able to contact my luthier for a while now.


Yes! I liked them so much, I put another set in my mahogany RG20062 puzzle top.
I just noticed you're in the PI. My wife's from there! There used to be a good guitar shop in the Robinson mall. I don't remember any in the SM Mega mall, though. You in Manila? I actually just drank a can if Royal Tru-Orange 5 minutes ago. That stuff is like crack for me. I always get a case every month when it comes in.


Oh! Nice to hear that! I'm not from Manila proper but I do go there sometimes specially when the time I was still taking up college. I'm currently residing in Laguna, mostly it would be called a province but I'm near the border of the city proper of the Metro so travelling is easy. There are many luthiers that can be found among the metro but there is a well knowned luthier that is living among our suburbs so we have easy access to one.

About your soda, hahaha! That is a good one. I often mix that with vodka sometimes Cool
Kevin
#20 Posted : 2/4/2012 6:03:40 PM
Kevin


Groups: Member
Joined: 10/30/2006(UTC)
Posts: 6,219
Location: United States
Ever think about making the hole a momentary pause button?
<insert signature that is usually larger than most of my posts>
Users browsing this topic
Guest
2 Pages12>
Forum Jump  
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.