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Replacing a tru-duo bridge humbucker with an Irongear Hot slag
proy900
#1 Posted : 8/20/2012 1:03:37 PM

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Hey,

I have an SA36QM with all the stock gear still in. Putting in a TUSQ graphite nut as i understand the plastic nut is a minus point on these. My main problem is the bucker in the bridge - its simply not hot enough for me and with the horrific amount of gain i play with a get a ear-piercing squeal off the bucker and excessive feedback from the singles.

So i've taken the hot slag out of my backup RG270 but looking at the wiring for the SA it looks like a minefield!

So any help or diagrams would be epic.

The hot slag is 4 wire (Red, Green, Black, Bare)

Thanks, peace and love

Perry
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#2 Posted : 8/20/2012 1:30:50 PM
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If you are just doing a one for one swap between 2 humbuckers. You should be able to wire it the same way the other was wired. If the bucker in the bridge was only a 2 lead, you need to find out which wires are which on your four lead. I believe you'll need to wire the North end to the South beginning.



This may be the right one, but I'm not 100%. This was for some SA160 and SA260 guitars. Although I believe the pickup config and knob config are the same.

Hope this helps,
-Bill
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#3 Posted : 8/20/2012 6:14:52 PM
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Originally Posted by: proy900 Go to Quoted Post
So any help or diagrams would be epic.


You really need to get your diagram from the pickup manufacturer. The True-Duo that is installed in your guitar is a very different kind of pickup. Since you are planning to pull out the True-Duo, the diagram from Ibanez is really only going to help you with the single coils that are installed. They won't really help you with that third party pickup much.

Ibanez wiring diagrams are generally easy to find.


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#4 Posted : 8/20/2012 6:56:18 PM
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Originally Posted by: Tracy Dae Go to Quoted Post
... the diagram from Ibanez is really only going to help you with the single coils that are installed...


Thanks Tracy! I didn't notice it was supposed to be SAS36 instead of SA36! No wonder I couldn't find it.
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#5 Posted : 8/23/2012 1:43:54 PM

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Thanks guys.

Should i change the pot to a 500k while i'm at it?

Is that wise?
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#6 Posted : 8/23/2012 2:22:57 PM
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Originally Posted by: proy900 Go to Quoted Post
Should i change the pot to a 500k while i'm at it?


The pots in SA guitars are already 500K.


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#7 Posted : 8/24/2012 6:47:50 AM

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Well excellent then.
Kept reading articles stating 250k. Now i've just got to work up the courage to hack at the electrics.
Will the fact the tone pot is push-pull affect the bucker or won't it do anything because of its how the bucker is wound.
Just want to be really careful and fully clued up before i take this on.
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#8 Posted : 8/24/2012 2:53:10 PM
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Originally Posted by: proy900 Go to Quoted Post
Kept reading articles stating 250k.


Articles usually just provide you with general examples. It is up to you the reader to confirm the information provided in the article matches your specific guitar. In your specific case, it doesn't.

You can connect your third party humbucker to the push pull pot if you want. You would need to contact that specific pickup's manufacturer to find out how. Or just use the trial and error method.
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#9 Posted : 8/24/2012 5:15:33 PM

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erm, me again. Looking on the home computer this time and i can get the wiring diagrams to load now so thanks very much for those but the only difference now is that the push pull pot is the tone pot not the volume pot. Will that change the wiring set up?

Wiring Gif

this is the best diagram i can find from the iron gear website
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#10 Posted : 9/18/2012 6:10:48 AM

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So i finally got round to giving it a bash last night!

Was crapping it because i couldn't find my wire grips which are like my third and fourth hands and had to use the soldering iron with my mouth on some occasions. This is how i swapped the wires.

Tru-Duo Location Iron Gear
Blue 5 way Switch 1 Red
Black Tone 4 Black
White Tone 5 White
Red Tone 6 Green
Earth Tone Pot Earth

Plugged it in and it bloody WORKS!!!

Haven't given it a full workout yet because it got late but quietly the guitar sounds fine on all switches with no crackle hum or earthing problems, but it's band practice tomorrow and we're in a new studio (500 square foot) so i can really aire it out!

Thought you'd like to know.

Next job - Swap the stock nut for a TUSQ graphite one (i'm not doing that!)
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